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Canadian household debt at record high . . . .
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2014-12-15 22:12:25 UTC
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So much for Harper's 'economic record', eh? The Cons must be referring to a
long-play record on a turntable in his home somewhere . . .
The only ones that have come out ahead under this government are the oil
companies and foreign workers. Canadians are sucking wind.
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The Canadian Press - December 15, 2014


Canadian household debt climbs to record levels


TORONTO - Canadian household debt hit a record high during the third quarter,
as it grew at a faster pace than disposable income, according to the latest
figures from Statistics Canada.

The total amount of credit market debt — which includes mortgages, non-mortgage
loans and consumer credit — held by Canadian households increased to 162.6 per
cent of disposable income during the quarter, from a revised 161.5 per cent in
the previous quarter.

That means Canadians owed about $1.63 for every dollar of disposable income in
the third quarter.
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The previous record of 161.7 per cent was set in the third quarter of 2013.

RBC economist Laura Cooper said the high ratio of debt relative to net worth
will reinforce the Bank of Canada's cautious approach to raising its benchmark
interest rate.

"Consumers have amassed record levels of outstanding debt as a protracted
period of depressed borrowing rates has sustained buoyant housing market
activity," Cooper said in a note.

The bank's overnight rate, which generally influences the interest rate charged
by lenders for variable rate mortgages and lines of credit, has remained at one
per cent for more than four years.

Cooper noted that more timely data from the Bank of Canada suggests the
accumulation of mortgage debt has settled into a more steady pace, although
non-mortgage loans have picked up some of the slack.

"Notably, the Bank of Canada perceives the risk of an unwinding of household
imbalances as still low and against a strengthening economic backdrop is
expected to raise the overnight rate in small, incremental hikes beginning in
mid-2015," Cooper said.

"We anticipate that while outstanding credit balances will likely rise further,
this will be accompanied by steady income gains, resulting in the
debt-to-income ratio stabilizing, albeit at elevated levels in upcoming quarters."

During the quarter, households borrowed $27.4 billion, primarily mortgages.

In total, Canadian households had $1,805 billion in credit market debt at the
end of the third quarter — an increase of about 1.5 per cent.

The increase was on par with the gain made during the previous quarter.

Meanwhile, the debt service ratio — the amount of interest paid on mortgage and
non-mortgage debt as a proportion of disposable income — declined to 6.8 per
cent, an "all-time low," according to Statistics Canada.

Both the mortgage debt service ratio and the consumer credit debt service ratio
edged down during the quarter.

Household net worth climbed 1.3 per cent during the quarter, after a 2.2 per
cent increase in the previous quarter. Household net work was $232,200 on a per
capita basis.

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Alan Baker
2014-12-15 22:30:14 UTC
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So much for Harper's 'economic record', eh? The Cons must be referring
to a long-play record on a turntable in his home somewhere . . .
The only ones that have come out ahead under this government are the
oil companies and foreign workers. Canadians are sucking wind.
Wow. When the cost of borrowing is low... ...people borrow more.

Just like any other thing when its cost is low.
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The Canadian Press - December 15, 2014
Canadian household debt climbs to record levels
TORONTO - Canadian household debt hit a record high during the third
quarter, as it grew at a faster pace than disposable income, according
to the latest figures from Statistics Canada.
The total amount of credit market debt — which includes mortgages,
non-mortgage loans and consumer credit — held by Canadian households
increased to 162.6 per cent of disposable income during the quarter,
from a revised 161.5 per cent in the previous quarter.
That means Canadians owed about $1.63 for every dollar of disposable
income in the third quarter.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The previous record of 161.7 per cent was set in the third quarter of 2013.
RBC economist Laura Cooper said the high ratio of debt relative to net
worth will reinforce the Bank of Canada's cautious approach to raising
its benchmark interest rate.
"Consumers have amassed record levels of outstanding debt as a
protracted period of depressed borrowing rates has sustained buoyant
housing market activity," Cooper said in a note.
The bank's overnight rate, which generally influences the interest rate
charged by lenders for variable rate mortgages and lines of credit, has
remained at one per cent for more than four years.
Cooper noted that more timely data from the Bank of Canada suggests the
accumulation of mortgage debt has settled into a more steady pace,
although non-mortgage loans have picked up some of the slack.
"Notably, the Bank of Canada perceives the risk of an unwinding of
household imbalances as still low and against a strengthening economic
backdrop is expected to raise the overnight rate in small, incremental
hikes beginning in mid-2015," Cooper said.
"We anticipate that while outstanding credit balances will likely rise
further, this will be accompanied by steady income gains, resulting in
the debt-to-income ratio stabilizing, albeit at elevated levels in
upcoming quarters."
During the quarter, households borrowed $27.4 billion, primarily mortgages.
In total, Canadian households had $1,805 billion in credit market debt
at the end of the third quarter — an increase of about 1.5 per cent.
The increase was on par with the gain made during the previous quarter.
Meanwhile, the debt service ratio — the amount of interest paid on
mortgage and non-mortgage debt as a proportion of disposable income —
declined to 6.8 per cent, an "all-time low," according to Statistics
Canada.
Both the mortgage debt service ratio and the consumer credit debt
service ratio edged down during the quarter.
Household net worth climbed 1.3 per cent during the quarter, after a
2.2 per cent increase in the previous quarter. Household net work was
$232,200 on a per capita basis.
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(ಠ_ಠ)
2014-12-15 22:52:33 UTC
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Post by Alan Baker
Wow. When the cost of borrowing is low... ...people borrow more.
And they need money for food and shelter.
Just like any other thing when its cost is low.
And they need money to pay for medicines and their kids' education.
They didn't need all those things before the Harper government.
Ooops . . . . (#^.^#)
Alan Baker
2014-12-15 23:03:12 UTC
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Post by Alan Baker
Wow. When the cost of borrowing is low... ...people borrow more.
And they need money for food and shelter.
Yes, but if the cost of borrowing is less, then they can borrow more
for the same interest cost per month.
Post by Alan Baker
Just like any other thing when its cost is low.
Learn to quote, please...
Post by Alan Baker
And they need money to pay for medicines and their kids' education.
They didn't need all those things before the Harper government.
Cite?
Post by Alan Baker
Ooops . . . . (#^.^#)
Yeah, you did forget any proof for your claims, didn't you?

:-)
(ಠ_ಠ)
2014-12-15 23:29:32 UTC
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Post by Alan Baker
Wow. When the cost of borrowing is low... ...people borrow more.
And they need money for food and shelter.
Yes, but if the cost of borrowing is less, then they can borrow more for the
same interest cost per month.
Post by Alan Baker
Just like any other thing when its cost is low.
Learn to quote, please...
Post by Alan Baker
And they need money to pay for medicines and their kids' education.
They didn't need all those things before the Harper government.
Cite?
Post by Alan Baker
Ooops . . . . (#^.^#)
Yeah, you did forget any proof for your claims, didn't you?
Just like I did.
:-)
Alan Baker
2014-12-15 23:35:41 UTC
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Post by Alan Baker
Wow. When the cost of borrowing is low... ...people borrow more.
And they need money for food and shelter.
Yes, but if the cost of borrowing is less, then they can borrow more for the
same interest cost per month.
Post by Alan Baker
Just like any other thing when its cost is low.
Learn to quote, please...
Post by Alan Baker
And they need money to pay for medicines and their kids' education.
They didn't need all those things before the Harper government.
Cite?
Post by Alan Baker
Ooops . . . . (#^.^#)
Yeah, you did forget any proof for your claims, didn't you?
Just like I did.
How sad for you...

You're not actually disputing the well-understood relationship between
cost and demand, are you?
M.I.Wakefield
2014-12-15 22:59:01 UTC
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Post by Alan Baker
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So much for Harper's 'economic record', eh? The Cons must be referring
to a long-play record on a turntable in his home somewhere . . .
The only ones that have come out ahead under this government are the oil
companies and foreign workers. Canadians are sucking wind.
Wow. When the cost of borrowing is low... ...people borrow more.
Just like any other thing when its cost is low.
Post by (ಠ_ಠ)
Meanwhile, the debt service ratio — the amount of interest paid on
mortgage and non-mortgage debt as a proportion of disposable income —
declined to 6.8 per cent, an "all-time low," according to Statistics
Canada.
So while debt is up, the amount that it is actually costing Canadians is at
an "all-time low". Trust Kkkaren to ignore the good news.
(ಠ_ಠ)
2014-12-15 23:32:40 UTC
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So while debt is up, the amount that it is actually costing Canadians is at an
"all-time low". Trust Kkkaren to ignore the good news.
If the cost of borrowing is at an all time low, why would the debt be up for
more Canadians than at any time in history?
Could they be borrowing for things that they never had to borrow for before?
And why would they have to be doing that?

Take it slow . . . . like slow people should take it . . . . .


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Alan Baker
2014-12-15 23:37:48 UTC
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So while debt is up, the amount that it is actually costing Canadians is at an
"all-time low". Trust Kkkaren to ignore the good news.
If the cost of borrowing is at an all time low, why would the debt be
up for more Canadians than at any time in history?
Let me rephrase that for you:

"If the cost of stereos is at an all time low, why would more Canadians
be buying stereos than at any time in history?"

That is literally equivalent to what you asked.
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Could they be borrowing for things that they never had to borrow for before?
They could, but they could also be borrowing to buy things they simply WANT.
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And why would they have to be doing that?
First, you prove that that's what's going on.
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2014-12-16 00:10:50 UTC
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Alan Baker
2014-12-16 05:16:13 UTC
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Another cop-out...
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2014-12-17 00:35:01 UTC
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Post by Alan Baker
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Another cop-out...
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Alan Baker
2014-12-17 00:42:05 UTC
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Another cop-out...
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Indeed...

...and what you said was a cop-out.

Put back the words that you snipped rather than address them.

:-)

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