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Praise For Canada's Amazingly Shrinking Deficit Must Be Given To PM Stephen Harper Government ?
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2014-10-05 17:48:09 UTC
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At just over $5 billion annually the federal government's deficit is far lower
than that of Liberal Kathleen Wynne's Liberal Ontario government. Even far leftist Karen Gordon will now have to take her hat off to Stephen Harper.
Total bullshit again, Lambourn. Harper's deficit-reduction was on the backs of
most Canadians. He withheld transfer payments to provinces, he capped
healthcare transfers to growing populations in those provinces, he withheld
military budget allotments from the defence department, he cut funding for
foreign programs involved with childcare and abortion, he cut huge numbers of
staff in the research and scientific fields involved with our environment . . .
. the list goes on and on.

He didn't reduce the deficit. He withheld monies promised to Canadians and
organizations who have relied on their tax dollars supporting programs that
mean a whole lot to them.

Oh, and by the way . . . It was Ontario's Liberal government that was the
hardest hit by the reduction of transfer payments to them - re-rerouted instead
to his home province of Alberta, oil-rich country. Rather than anyone taking
their hat off for Stephen Harper, they should support a public roasting of him
and his crony Cons on the steps of the Parliament buildings.
All proceeds to go towards the programs he's cut.
Alan Baker
2014-10-05 18:02:05 UTC
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At just over $5 billion annually the federal government's deficit is far lower
than that of Liberal Kathleen Wynne's Liberal Ontario government. Even
far leftist Karen Gordon will now have to take her hat off to Stephen
Harper.
Total bullshit again, Lambourn. Harper's deficit-reduction was on the
backs of most Canadians. He withheld transfer payments to provinces,
he capped healthcare transfers to growing populations in those
provinces, he withheld military budget allotments from the defence
department, he cut funding for foreign programs involved with childcare
and abortion, he cut huge numbers of staff in the research and
scientific fields involved with our environment . . . . the list goes
on and on.
He didn't reduce the deficit. He withheld monies promised to Canadians
and organizations who have relied on their tax dollars supporting
programs that mean a whole lot to them.
Sorry, but Harper has reduced the federal deficit.

From 3.6% of GDP to 0.9%.
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Oh, and by the way . . . It was Ontario's Liberal government that was
the hardest hit by the reduction of transfer payments to them -
re-rerouted instead to his home province of Alberta, oil-rich country.
Rather than anyone taking their hat off for Stephen Harper, they should
support a public roasting of him and his crony Cons on the steps of the
Parliament buildings.
All proceeds to go towards the programs he's cut.
Support your claim.

Show that the federal government has reduced transfer payments to
Ontario while increasing them to Alberta...

But since we all know that will never happen, here are a few facts:

Over the last 10 years, total federal transfer payments have INCREASED
by more than 50%

Total transfer payments to Ontario have increased by more than 75%, and
transfers to Alberta have increased more...

...by more than 100%...

...but even after those increases, Alberta's payments PER CAPITA (do
you need a moment to look that up?) are still less than Ontario's.

<http://www.fin.gc.ca/fedprov/mtp-eng.asp>


What a pity you don't actually check your facts before bleating, eh Karen?

:-)
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2014-10-05 18:51:57 UTC
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Post by Alan Baker
Sorry, but Harper has reduced the federal deficit.
From 3.6% of GDP to 0.9%.
Sleight of hand. Manipulation of numbers. IOW . . . just more bullshit from
a lying government.
Harper reduced support for Canadians - and gave it, instead, to corporations
through subsidies and to himself by increasing staff in the office of the PMO.
The guy can only fool the fools.
Alan Baker
2014-10-05 22:30:03 UTC
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Post by Alan Baker
Sorry, but Harper has reduced the federal deficit.
From 3.6% of GDP to 0.9%.
Sleight of hand. Manipulation of numbers. IOW . . . just more
bullshit from a lying government.
Riiiiiiight.

LOL
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Harper reduced support for Canadians - and gave it, instead, to
corporations through subsidies and to himself by increasing staff in
the office of the PMO.
The guy can only fool the fools.
And yet, you offer no proof...
(ಠ_ಠ)
2014-10-06 00:43:54 UTC
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Post by Alan Baker
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Post by Alan Baker
Sorry, but Harper has reduced the federal deficit.
From 3.6% of GDP to 0.9%.
Sleight of hand. Manipulation of numbers. IOW . . . just more bullshit
from a lying government.
Riiiiiiight.
LOL
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Harper reduced support for Canadians - and gave it, instead, to corporations
through subsidies and to himself by increasing staff in the office of the PMO.
The guy can only fool the fools.
And yet, you offer no proof...
You missed it in this newsgroup. Time you started reading the news or else
just admit you're all mouth and no knowledge of what's going on around you.
Or maybe you're just a lazy twerp. I suspect the latter.
Alan Baker
2014-10-06 00:51:19 UTC
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Post by Alan Baker
Sorry, but Harper has reduced the federal deficit.
From 3.6% of GDP to 0.9%.
Sleight of hand. Manipulation of numbers. IOW . . . just more bullshit
from a lying government.
Riiiiiiight.
LOL
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Harper reduced support for Canadians - and gave it, instead, to corporations
through subsidies and to himself by increasing staff in the office of the PMO.
The guy can only fool the fools.
And yet, you offer no proof...
You missed it in this newsgroup. Time you started reading the news or
else just admit you're all mouth and no knowledge of what's going on
around you.
Or maybe you're just a lazy twerp. I suspect the latter.
So despite claiming that proof is easily found...

...you won't prove that either.

I've shown you the financial information from the federal government
and you cannot even show your beloved NDP disagreeing with those
figures.
(ಠ_ಠ)
2014-10-06 01:07:47 UTC
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Post by Alan Baker
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And yet, you offer no proof...
You missed it in this newsgroup. Time you started reading the news or else
just admit you're all mouth and no knowledge of what's going on around you.
Or maybe you're just a lazy twerp. I suspect the latter.
So despite claiming that proof is easily found...
...you won't prove that either.
You come along months after the discussion and ask someone to repost
information? Get a life, ya lazy twerp.
Post by Alan Baker
I've shown you the financial information from the federal government and you
cannot even show your beloved NDP disagreeing with those figures.
YOU "showed me the financail information from the federal government"?
I could have sworn that was M.I.Wakefield that posted that. Anyone wanting to
check just has to look back a few messages in this thread.
Are you posting as M.I.Wakefield AND Alan Baker?
Alan Baker
2014-10-06 01:22:54 UTC
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Post by Alan Baker
And yet, you offer no proof...
You missed it in this newsgroup. Time you started reading the news or else
just admit you're all mouth and no knowledge of what's going on around you.
Or maybe you're just a lazy twerp. I suspect the latter.
So despite claiming that proof is easily found...
...you won't prove that either.
You come along months after the discussion and ask someone to repost
information? Get a life, ya lazy twerp.
You've now spent more time and energy avoiding posting a link to this
alleged information...

...than simply posting it would have taken.
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Post by Alan Baker
I've shown you the financial information from the federal government and you
cannot even show your beloved NDP disagreeing with those figures.
YOU "showed me the financail information from the federal government"?
I could have sworn that was M.I.Wakefield that posted that. Anyone
wanting to check just has to look back a few messages in this thread.
Are you posting as M.I.Wakefield AND Alan Baker?
I'm certain that I posted this link:

<http://www.fin.gc.ca/fedprov/mtp-eng.asp>

In this post:

<m0s12t$63g$***@news.datemas.de>


What a pity you've shown once again how poorly you read for comprehension.
M.I.Wakefield
2014-10-05 21:20:46 UTC
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Oh, and by the way . . . It was Ontario's Liberal government that was
the hardest hit by the reduction of transfer payments to them -
re-rerouted instead to his home province of Alberta, oil-rich country.
Rather than anyone taking their hat off for Stephen Harper, they should
support a public roasting of him and his crony Cons on the steps of the
Parliament buildings.
All proceeds to go towards the programs he's cut.
Support your claim.
She can't. I posted this back in June:

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Except that you're completely wrong, and transfer payments went up ...

Canada Health Transfer
2013: $11.925 billion
2014: $12.335 billion

An increase of $410 million.

Canada Social Transfer
2013: $4.704 billion
2014: $4.835 billion

An increase of $131 million.

... just like they have every year since at least 2006/07.

http://www.fin.gc.ca/fedprov/mtp-eng.asp#Ontario
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Post by Alan Baker
What a pity you don't actually check your facts before bleating, eh Karen?
It's a gigantic ass, she can't find everything the first time she looks:
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2014-10-06 00:48:55 UTC
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Post by M.I.Wakefield
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Except that you're completely wrong, and transfer payments went up ...
Canada Health Transfer
2013: $11.925 billion
2014: $12.335 billion
An increase of $410 million.
Canada Social Transfer
2013: $4.704 billion
2014: $4.835 billion
An increase of $131 million.
... just like they have every year since at least 2006/07.
http://www.fin.gc.ca/fedprov/mtp-eng.asp#Ontario
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And I pointed out that you posted tripe. You're now RE-posting your tripe.
You were told how the population had changed - both in Canada and in various
provinces.
You see to think that Harper's cutting healthcare to Ontario and instead giving
it to Alberta missed everyone's notice.
You just post what you want the rightwing dummies to see and agree with.
I post what is a major issue of Harper capping healthcare transfers. I post
what is a major issue for Ontario's cuts.

Quote the lying government all you like, Dumbranski . . . . they're greedy,
unethical bastards. No wonder you find them your preferred party.
Alan Baker
2014-10-06 00:53:10 UTC
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Post by M.I.Wakefield
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Except that you're completely wrong, and transfer payments went up ...
Canada Health Transfer
2013: $11.925 billion
2014: $12.335 billion
An increase of $410 million.
Canada Social Transfer
2013: $4.704 billion
2014: $4.835 billion
An increase of $131 million.
... just like they have every year since at least 2006/07.
http://www.fin.gc.ca/fedprov/mtp-eng.asp#Ontario
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
And I pointed out that you posted tripe. You're now RE-posting your tripe.
You were told how the population had changed - both in Canada and in
various provinces.
Told by you?

Yeah... ...I'd find that unconvincing as well.
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You see to think that Harper's cutting healthcare to Ontario and
instead giving it to Alberta missed everyone's notice.
You just post what you want the rightwing dummies to see and agree with.
I post what is a major issue of Harper capping healthcare transfers. I
post what is a major issue for Ontario's cuts.
You've yet to actually show that there have BEEN any cuts.
(ಠ_ಠ)
2014-10-06 01:09:27 UTC
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And I pointed out that you posted tripe. You're now RE-posting your tripe.
You were told how the population had changed - both in Canada and in various
provinces.
Told by you?
Yeah... ...I'd find that unconvincing as well.
See why I won't repost anything for you, Baker/Wakefield? Get your own
information - and then you can only be left doubting yourself.
Alan Baker
2014-10-06 01:23:46 UTC
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Post by Alan Baker
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And I pointed out that you posted tripe. You're now RE-posting your tripe.
You were told how the population had changed - both in Canada and in various
provinces.
Told by you?
Yeah... ...I'd find that unconvincing as well.
See why I won't repost anything for you, Baker/Wakefield? Get your own
information - and then you can only be left doubting yourself.
If the information had been posted with a valid source, it wouldn't be
YOU that had been the orginal source.
M.I.Wakefield
2014-10-06 01:39:36 UTC
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See why I won't repost anything for you, Baker/Wakefield? Get your own
information - and then you can only be left doubting yourself.
If the information had been posted with a valid source, it wouldn't be YOU
that had been the orginal source.
She boasts that she always posts the source ... so if she doesn't, there
isn't one.
Alan Baker
2014-10-06 06:45:18 UTC
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See why I won't repost anything for you, Baker/Wakefield? Get your own
information - and then you can only be left doubting yourself.
If the information had been posted with a valid source, it wouldn't be
YOU that had been the orginal source.
She boasts that she always posts the source ... so if she doesn't,
there isn't one.
I have observed that those who actually have posted authoritative
sources have no problem providing a link via Google Groups to the post
where they actually posted them...

...and those who haven't always spend a lot of time blustering about
how reposting such a link would be "wasting his or her time"
(ಠ_ಠ)
2014-10-06 17:59:26 UTC
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I have observed that those who actually have posted authoritative sources have
no problem providing a link via Google Groups to the post where they actually
posted them...
...and those who haven't always spend a lot of time blustering about how
reposting such a link would be "wasting his or her time" - even if it's clear I'm doing nothing more than trying to provoke another poster.
Alan Baker
2014-10-06 18:47:06 UTC
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I have observed that those who actually have posted authoritative sources have
no problem providing a link via Google Groups to the post where they actually
posted them...
...and those who haven't always spend a lot of time blustering about how
reposting such a link would be "wasting his or her time" - even if it's
clear I'm doing nothing more than trying to provoke another poster.
Wow, Karen: that's one of your most intelligent replies EVER.

(ಠ_ಠ)
2014-10-06 17:58:30 UTC
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She boasts that she always posts the source ... so if she doesn't, there isn't
one.
Although you ARE trying to recycle a topic from nearly a half year back.
(ಠ_ಠ)
2014-10-06 17:57:33 UTC
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If the information had been posted with a valid source, it wouldn't be YOU that
had been the orginal source.
I’m sorry, I’m a little busy. Can I ignore you later?
Alan Baker
2014-10-06 18:46:39 UTC
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If the information had been posted with a valid source, it wouldn't be YOU that
had been the orginal source.
I’m sorry, I’m a little busy. Can I ignore you later?
Apparently... ...you can't.

But you certainly CAN spend a lot of time avoiding posting a link to
your alleged easily found information.
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